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Tal-y-bont to Pen-y-gaer°

3380.8 m · net rise 335.3 m · total ascent 346.4 m · overall 9.9% · confidence: needs confirmation · Llanbedr-y-cennin · Conwy

Shape: sustained — 30% of the climbing sits in a quarter of the distance; longest continuous stretch at 10%+ is 212 m.

Found purely from mapping and LiDAR data, and not yet matched against books, race records or lists — it may be well known to locals under a name we've never heard. It was cross-checked against the OS road network, surface models and map tags, but a discovery can still be an artifact of the terrain model or the map. Treat it as a well-evidenced hypothesis until someone has ridden it. If you know this road, tell us what you found — photographs, corrections and local knowledge all welcome; the map links below let you scout it first.

° The name is provisional: this climb is not yet matched to a documented name, so it was named from nearby map places. There is no evidence of local usage — (auto-named from gazetteer (hypothesis, unreviewed); discovered as 'Discovered lane (53.2120, -3.8669)'). Corrections welcome.

needs review short_window_divergence — treat short-window maxima here as provisional.

≈ Overhead cover (tree canopy or structures) spans 40% of this route — detected by comparing the surface model (DSM, treetops and rooftops) against the terrain model (DTM, bare ground). Under cover the bare-ground model is built from fewer laser returns, so metre-scale readings can wobble; maxima whose window sits in a covered zone are marked ≈ below — less certain — the flag does not say whether the true value is higher or lower. Longer windows average over more clean ground and are steadier.

Gradient ladder what do windows mean?

WindowMaximumLocated at
2 m (diagnostic)49%1105–1107 munder overhead cover
3 m (diagnostic)45%1105–1108 munder overhead cover
5 m39%1105–1110 munder overhead cover terrain reads 42.6% at 997–1002 m across a structure — excluded
10 m27%1102–1112 munder overhead cover terrain reads 33.5% at 995–1005 m across a structure — excluded
20 m23.6%3129–3149 munder overhead cover terrain reads 24.9% at 985–1005 m across a structure — excluded
25 m23.6%3125–3150 m
50 m21.2%3115–3165 munder overhead cover terrain reads 21.9% at 954–1004 m across a structure — excluded
100 m19.1%2727–2827 munder overhead cover terrain reads 19.4% at 907–1007 m across a structure — excluded

Map

Check this route yourself: Google Maps route via their router · Street View at the base where coverage exists · geojson.io our exact measured line · OpenTopoMap

This climb's data: OCL JSON — the full gradient ladder, quality flags and provenance in the OpenClimb Ladder format.

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  © OpenStreetMap contributors · topo tiles © OpenTopoMap (CC-BY-SA) · vector tiles OpenFreeMap

Tal-y-bont to Pen-y-gaer LiDAR hillshade map with contours

Profile

Tal-y-bont to Pen-y-gaer elevation profile Tal-y-bont to Pen-y-gaer rolling gradient profile

Provenance

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  "analysis_version": "0.1.0",
  "sample_interval_m": 1.0,
  "interpolation": "bilinear",
  "smoothing": "none",
  "gradient_windows_m": [
    5.0,
    10.0,
    20.0,
    25.0,
    50.0,
    100.0
  ],
  "diagnostic_windows_m": [
    2.0,
    3.0
  ],
  "elevation_crs": "EPSG:27700",
  "elevation_resolution_m": 1.0,
  "elevation_tiles": [
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_274368_20210302dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_274369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_274370_20210307dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_275368_20210302dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_275369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_275370_20210307dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_276368_20210302dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_276369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "data/cache/wales/dtm_1m/wg_del_12_276370_20210307dtm.tif"
  ],
  "calculated_at": "2026-08-12T09:10:12+00:00",
  "road_source": "OpenStreetMap (local PBF extract)",
  "road_attribution": "\u00a9 OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL",
  "osm_pbf_path": "data/cache/pbf/wales-2026-08-11.osm.pbf",
  "osm_snapshot": "2026-08-10T20:21:40Z",
  "elevation_provider": "Welsh Government",
  "elevation_dataset": "Welsh Government LiDAR 1m DTM (2020-2023)",
  "elevation_licence": "Open Government Licence v3 \u2014 \u00a9 Crown copyright Welsh Government",
  "elevation_catalogue_layer": "geonode:welsh_government_lidar_tile_catalogue_2020_2023",
  "elevation_tile_ids": [
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    "wg_del_12_274369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_274370_20210307dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_275368_20210302dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_275369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_275370_20210307dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_276368_20210302dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_276369_20210307dtm.tif",
    "wg_del_12_276370_20210307dtm.tif"
  ],
  "elevation_capture_dates": [
    "07-03-2021"
  ],
  "climb_origin": "discovered",
  "notes": "Coarse pass: max 15.1% over 200 m (Terrain 50), gain 167.8 m over 1509 m way. EXTENDED by graph walk: +4 segment(s) at base, +1 at top (stop: base=no_descending_continuation, top=no_ascending_continuation; min_avg=2.0%). Review before adopting. DEDUPE: absorbed 4 overlapping proposal(s): discovered-lane-53-2056-3-8511, discovered-lane-53-2075-3-8589, discovered-lane-53-2078-3-8790, discovered-lane-53-2086-3-8625 ADOPTED (notable slice 2026-08-11): big-gain. AUTO-NAMED from gazetteer (hypothesis, unreviewed): was 'Discovered lane (53.2120, -3.8669)'.",
  "naming_note": "auto-named from gazetteer (hypothesis, unreviewed); discovered as 'Discovered lane (53.2120, -3.8669)'"
}